Seeing Redz - The Story of Click Fraud and RedZee
Redz, or previously called RedZee is one of the biggest rip-off scams on the Web. They may have changed their name and domain to try and avoid all the negative listings after any search for RedZee - EVERY listing after their own on a Google search is something negative - time for a new engine name and URL don't you think and that is exactly what they did....:-)
So, now when you search for 'redz' on the major search engines, Redz shows up between 2nd and 4th position, but there are no negative listings on the first page! Wow, good job Redz (or RedZee).
What I find funny is this, they are so sloppy on running their company that they left old versions of their search engine live. For instance, if you type in RedZee.net you get to see the original search engine. If you type in RedZee.org, you will find show old press release from 2005 called, 'New Metasearch Engine With a New Vision'. Not sure what they meant, unless the vision was a clever scheme to rip people off.
Now let me tell you a quick story about someone I know who bought into their lies and bought a listing from them. Well, after analyzing their traffic in Google Analytics it was quite interesting that a site that receives around 200 unique visits a day from search engines can suddenly spike to 600 unique visits a day with 400 of these visits coming from Redz. Let's give Redz the benefit of the doubt and assume that they could provide 400 unique visits a day (sometimes much more in bursts) I analyzed a bit deeper any amazingly enough 100%, not 98% or 99%, but 100% of the traffic bounced. So, with no explanation from Redz my friend has dropped them, but they still try to harass them into using their service with lightly veiled threats about what will happen to their website once they quit the service.
So, just for reference, Redz really does not have that much actual traffic and no they have no arrangements with any of the major search engines, but they do have a piece of software that once installed can overlay their ads on top of Google, Yahoo, Bing or Ask results giving you the appearance of clicking on a Google, Yahoo, Bing or Ask ads. This is basically spyware labeled as something else (some spyware software can catch and remove this malicious and intrusive code) as to not alarm you and/or allow you to have any idea of what it is actually doing. In addition, all the traffic my friend saw was actually 'bot' traffic, meaning it was not actual humans, but programs specifically designed to call upon and then click on ads that generate traffic for RedZee to allow it to continue selling it's program to unsuspecting individuals month after month.
What I hope to achieve with this post is a better awareness of what Redz actually is all about and to provide the potential for this information to rank within the top 10 listings in major search engines when someone actually searches on the term 'redz'.
Redz is just like RedZee you cannot hide behind a new domain and name and apparently you cannot teach an old zebra new tricks.
McAffee SiteAdvisor Information on RedZee and Redz Websites
I urge you to post any dealing you have had with RedZee and/or Redz in the comments of this post.
Updates and additional resource links (10.22.10)
Amazingly enough, RedZee/Redz have been running their scams for over 5 years now!
I would like to thank everyone who continues to keep others aware of this ongoing scam by posting their personal experiences with this worthless company. My only hope is that we can help more people before they also get scammed as it appears Redz will not stop be stopping anytime soon. Below are some additional links and information, but please read the comments before you go and add your own if you feel so inclined.
PRLog - RedZee Traffic Fake, Lots of Complaints and Reviews
Ripoff Report - RedZee Search Results
Agents Online - RedZee - scam - Realtors Marketing Tips, Talk, Webmasters Forum
SEO Fail Blog - RedZ Fail
Squidoo - Open Letter to the President of RedZee
The Kona Impact Blog - RedZee Pay-Per-Click Scam Alert
800 Notes - Directory of Unknown Callers - RedZee (813) 769-2423
Feydakin.com - Bad SEO – RedZee / Web Wise Media Scam
T-Shirt Forums - RedZ - New Inexpensive Search Marketing Opportunity
Able 2 Know - Anyone use RedZ search engine?
Info Barrel - Redz Search Engine
The Consumerist - Redzee Won't Stop Trying To Scam Charlie's Boss
Webmaster World Forum - RedZ Won't Be Around Long
Les Jones Blog - Beware of Redzee.com
Squidoo Lens - RedZee Search Engine - The Top3 Scam
The Search Engine Guide - Seeing Red - Search Engine RedZee Reviewed
SEOMoz - Investigating the RedZee Search Engine
Real Estate Webmasters - Redzee
Cre8asiteForum - What's a RedZee
Website Chat Software - Detecting click fraud with…Live chat software!?
Site Reference - RedZee Complaints Pile Up - Read This Before Using Redzee!
Stepforth - Seeing Red - Search Engine RedZee™ Reviewed
Web Pro World Forum - Share Your RedZee Experience or Information
Professional Web Services - Advertising Scam "Search Engine Data Merging"
Complaints Board - Web Wise Media SCAM, HOAX, RIP OFF
Lunar Pages Forum - RedZee and eventure
Active Rain - RedZee.com
July 30, 2009 at 8:14 AM
RedZ sucks. Do not let their high pressure sales tactics fool you into signing up with them. It is all bogus. I am so sick of them calling us every year. Nobody uses this search engine, they provide no value to the web.
August 1, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Got suckered into $300 dollars worth. You are right. homepage only, no navigation through site. Lessons aren't cheap these days.
August 27, 2009 at 11:54 AM
I am glad I found this article. I just received a call from a redz saleman and was really considering it until I read this. Thanks for your help on redz. It would have been $500.00 bucks down the drain.
September 7, 2009 at 8:51 PM
I hope all this isn't true because I just spent 300 on this site
September 13, 2009 at 9:59 PM
I just spent $250 on this. I'm going to call my credit card company and request money back due to fraud! Thanks Traffic Flo
September 18, 2009 at 12:43 PM
They must be going through a blitz of sales calls, I got one just 30 minutes ago. The pitch made me think I needed to do some research before committing to anything and I'm glad I did. Thanks to the person that set this up. Forwarned is Forarmed.
September 22, 2009 at 9:27 AM
I just got a call from them. I convinced them to give us a free 24-hour trial (they'll be listing my site, Guaranteach.com, as one of the top 3 results for the search term "tutoring"). It will be interesting to look at the Google analytics for their traffic tomorrow... I'll report back.
September 30, 2009 at 12:44 PM
RedZ is a total scam. If you gave them money call your credit card company and dispute the payment.
Lesson learned - you need to check everything for possible fraud these days.
September 30, 2009 at 5:00 PM
So glad that I found this post. From the initial sales pitch it did sound too good to be true, but then I found it highly suspicious that they were unable to provide search volume estimates for the keyword phrases I was interested in. Apparently, they don't track that information unless it's a keyword phrase that an advertiser is bidding on. When I asked some more probing questions the rep ended up getting slightly hostile - another red flag, given that I was asking the normal questions that I run through when checking out a potential advertising opportunity. The last two red flags, and I think you will all find this just as funny as I did:
1) "I'll have to find out if we record the total clicks in addition to unique clicks. No one has ever asked me that before."
2) "I never even heard of a browser before I started working here."
Don't waste your time!
October 19, 2009 at 1:53 PM
These people don't give up. Got a cold call from them today, and it took three refusals and hang-ups for them to finally stop calling back. They tried to claim they were the next Facebook and Twitter. I asked them 3x about how people would find them to search on, and all I got were vague phrases about word of mouth.
Everything I read about them on all major webmaster and ecommerce forums says stay away, FAR away.
November 2, 2009 at 5:05 AM
RedZ rep called me and gave similar sales pitch. I had never found RedZ when looking for alternative search engines so was suspicious. Any questions I asked were glossed over. I didn't like what I was hearing and so asked her for "hard copy" of her sales pitch. She said, "we don't do that". Kind of odd I thought. I wanted something in writing, no dice. She promised an email - never got that either - thank heavens! I just found this site about the Fraud and RedZ. The only thing good about them that I've seen is the red zebra - he's very cute! Thanks for the info. My intuition was correct.
November 3, 2009 at 11:43 AM
I worked there 100 % scam
November 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM
On the phone with them right now! Wow, they are trying so hard. I can see right through the scam. blah blah blah blah (she thinks I am listening)
November 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM
just got off the phone with a very pushy sales rep. He sounded fishy. I wanted to see what kind of reports they provided, they wouldn't let me see it until I paid the $500 or $300 to start off with. I told him I had never heard of RedZ, how will others? told me the same thing, its through word of mouth. Very sketchy company. I'm glad I found this post. thanks for sharing your experiences. I'm not alone.
November 18, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Wow. I am glad I found this article. I have a guy from there calling me this morning, trying to make it a smooth sales call.
I wasn't very interested in the first place, but I was still planning on talking to the boss about it to see if he was. Not anymore, though.
November 20, 2009 at 2:51 PM
SCAM calls www.totaltea.us in Lubbock TX. Wanted $500 for "colon cleansing" ONLY. "Colon Cleanse" was already taken by a competitor they reported. Said i needed to hurry before the best keywords were taken. He said only the top three payers would be seen on their website, so i asked what the other 27 listings were. He said those were organic listings, so i typed in "total tea" into their site and my site was listed but with someone elses graphic??? I typed in totaltea.net and again someone elses site, but my link. Talk about a red flag. I had decided not to advertise with them BEFORE i found this blog, but this is icing on the preverbial cake. It's really a shame we work hard the every $, only to have bottom feeders try to make a quick $. I'm taking a moment now to pray for those scammers. - chad b, lubbock tx.
December 2, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Just received a call. Sounded fishy & annoying from the start. Did a quick google search and found this and saved an extra minute by hanging up on him now. Thanks for sharing
December 2, 2009 at 4:41 PM
I signed up with them last year and never got a single conversion. So when they called to renew I said no. Now they call EVERY DAY - LITERALLY! I've put their number in my phone with a silent ringer, so they can call everyday for the rest of my life if they want.
Avoid - avoid - avoid!
December 16, 2009 at 11:58 AM
this guy is pushy and no one uses redz.com to SEARCH lol. just told him to beat it
December 16, 2009 at 12:01 PM
The sales guy is a smooth talker and sounds like he really believes in what he's selling.
He called me yesterday and this morning.
His tactic was to show a competitor who signed up. The numbers he was telling me sounded too high since their net visibility is pretty low.
The search is pretty lame looking too don't you think?? scrolling sreen shots of websites.. Some you can hardly read. Seems not very useful.
I say avoid them.
December 16, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Complete and utter foolishness. See leapfish.com scam and others pulling the same old con. Stick with google and branch out with bing, yahoo and ask for your PPC needs otherwise work the "real" organic way with blogging, tagging, booking, etc. Redz is a joke and so is almost anyone else who needs to call you! Feel free to spam them or keep them on hold for hours!
December 22, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Thanks for the info. Guy just called and I was suspicious from the start. Kind of a cool idea, so why make a scam out of it?
Funny part - I say to the guy, " If I'm paying for each click that comes through, couldn't you guys have bots jamming the site to run up my bill?" He says - OH NO SIR, that would be immoral!
Uhhhh... yea, it would.
December 27, 2009 at 10:26 AM
I am glad by each comment I see where this post has saved someone from the scam that is Redz (formerly RedZee).
It is a complete scam, they are rude and basically all the traffic appears to be from bots (automated, not human) traffic.
I only wish we could save more people before it is too late.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HELP PLEASE DO THE FOLLOWING:
1. Link to this post (make it more popular)
2. Share it with others
January 6, 2010 at 4:25 PM
wow, they just called and I was going to mention it to our accountant. Not now, thanks guys. I can't wait until she calls me back Friday, I'll give her a link to this article.
January 6, 2010 at 7:05 PM
I just found out that they ripped me off too. 2-8 visits per day, then bam...1,300 in one day. All to the homepage, all bounced. $500 down the drain. Don't use.
January 16, 2010 at 8:23 AM
Our newest web site went on line 1/4/10. In a matter of three days, a sales person from RedZ called. emailed, and said they had a better PPC deal. I had our site administrator check them out, and our conclusion is they are tons of hype, false premises and not what they claim to be. I strongly suggest anyone thinking about doing business with RedZ or Redzee to do their homework. We are sure that you will come to same conclusion.
January 17, 2010 at 9:25 PM
Got Suckered in by a sales person last week. I am confused after reading these posts. I really want to do something about it and get my money back. Any advise to what should I do. I should have done my Homework before committing. I feel horrible.
February 2, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Red Z is a total scam! They got me for over $2000.00. Very pushy salesman. When I checked my Google Analytics I mentioned to Chris with Red Z that they were my highest referrer but the average time spent on my site was 12 seconds or under. Every other referrer was over 4 minutes. So there must be someone clicking out my money on RedZ end. Chris was going to look into it and get back to me. That was over 2 weeks ago. And now the every other day sales calls have stopped. Imagine that! BEWARE of Redz!!!!
February 5, 2010 at 2:47 PM
Any idea how to block this search engine from crawling your site? I've been suckered into advertising with them as well..and right this moment I show about 10 hits (all just sitting there) coming from Canada using the Redz Search. I'm sure it's their bot cause nearly all of them haven't moved from the 1st page and are sitting there for over an hour.
February 15, 2010 at 2:39 PM
It appears that they haven't given up. I just got off the phone with a woman from redz. Cool display but I could tell right away it was a boiler room call. She needed to transfer me to a Specialist/Closer to get me pricing/further information. She couldn't email me any information (afraid of proof of wired fraud I guess), imagine that in this day and age a sales rep that can't email information to interested parties.
February 16, 2010 at 11:54 AM
Just got off phone with salesman from RedZ. Kept pushing and pushing and I told him, look we're a local company, I have excellent organic results. Wanted to put my site up today "for free" i said no, because we're moving to a WordPress Platform----he had NO clue what Wordpress was. What does that tell you??????????
February 16, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Interesting. I'm with Chad, I'm going to go pray for them. They tried so hard to tell me how they were a Christian company. I suspected bots and told them my ranking with Google suffered because of the 90% bounce rate. They had a lame excuse that they used to display in frames, but now they go directly to your site in a new window. Even proved it to me over the phone, but what about when I'm off the phone. They were going to change my keywords & e-mail me them, along with a string that I was suppose to put on the end of my URL. I think these guys would try about anything. Has anyone contacted the Better Business Bureau?
February 24, 2010 at 12:07 PM
I'm so disheartend by the fact they 'claim' to be a Christian company. I was very interested by the fact that they were an 'image' site vs txt but just took the info and told them I'd get back to them.
Thank to you all for the information so we didn't waist our funds. We ARE a Christian Grant writing firm that works solely with Christian Ministries and churches. Blessings, Marketing, Here-4-You Christian Grant Consulting. www.npfunds.com
February 26, 2010 at 9:31 AM
Laugh of the day: go to redz.com and enter "search engines" for the search term. For me bing.com was first (a paid listing)... redz.com didn't appear on the page! oops!
Very pushy sales person who also wanted $500... hurry before your search term is gone. yeah, right.
If nobody ever heard of them, how are they going to use them as a search engine?
On Firefox, there is a .css problem so the smallest listing line of text is written over something else. Oh, and a little simple javascript animation could have made the site much less clunky.
I think I can live happily without these guys.
March 8, 2010 at 11:06 AM
Great Post. Thanks.
It's funny this article is fifth in search results for "redz".
March 16, 2010 at 2:52 PM
As an astute business person I am always cautious, but our marketing plan is to "place many small bets" and test and learn -- and so we did with RedZ. After several months of testing and back and fourth with them - Paul Brown and Shannon Hornbach (both aliases my guess), one one single click. Many hits to the home page -- nothing to show for it. At best these people are a scam and may be a fraud. I plan to write a letter to the State Attorney General for Florida (where they are located) and Wisconsin, where we are located.
This may be a case of interstate fraud.
March 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM
THANK YOU for this post! I just got a call from a rep and I asked them to e-mail me info. I was considering talking to my boss about it, but I won't bother anymore! I'm glad I did my research.
March 22, 2010 at 11:59 PM
Well, I got a call yesterday from Miss RedZ (some charming girl). Funny, but I had just stopped a PPC program with someone else to the tune of $300/month - but she sounded "much" better: 10¢ per click, for $500 until it's gone. And she quoted others in my field by name ... poor guys. Who's going to search for me using something they've never heard of? "RedZ"? Really? Thanks for this site!
March 26, 2010 at 9:33 AM
Man am i glad i found this article!!! Just received a phone call from Redz. Sounded way to good to be true. He said he would call back in an hour. Didn't find one good post about them anywhere.
April 6, 2010 at 10:17 AM
Same story here, we got cold called today by a nice sounding guy that wanted us to ensure our placement. He never got around to telling us we needed $500 (or 300) though since after understanding the basic details I asked him to email me the actual financial details. Still waiting for that email...
April 8, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Thanks for your post. I have just asked for a $500 refund of yesterday's purchase. Their invoice states: Your continued use of our services following the date three days from the date of this letter will constitute your agreement to our Terms and
Conditions of Use for Advertisers. I have called my credit card company and preemptively challenged the charge that has been authorized but not cleared. Again: thank you for keeping this information available.
April 16, 2010 at 11:09 AM
I wish I would have googled "Redz scam" months ago! We spent $800 on advertising with them. Aaron get ready for an angry phone call, I would like an explanation for 96% Bounce rate!!!
April 23, 2010 at 2:58 PM
Redz is a total ripoff. Their traffic is 100% computer generated with a 100% bounce. Thankfully, we demanded and got a refund. Always do your research before spending $$ on clicks. Your $$ is almost always much better spent on improving organic search results!
April 30, 2010 at 7:29 PM
got cold-called by redz.com earlier this week.
I haven't lost any money to these kind of sales pitches yet, but any search engine or shopping website that has to cold-call to drum up business is never worth doing business with.
May 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM
Thanks for the posting. Got a call today and it sounded too good. Its a clever scam but they need to perfect their site a bit more, build some fake report screens and they would have had me. They are calling tomorrow for my order. They are wasting their time on that call.
May 5, 2010 at 11:25 AM
Thanks to the author of this article and all of you who left comments. I received a call today and their sales pitch sounds really good, but I told them I wanted to investicate RedZ more on my own before I did anything and this is the site I found. I am a distributor of LED ligths including Flexible neon lighting...www.getneon.com and www.ledsourceonline.com. Thanks to all of you I will not be wasting my time or money with them. THANKS THANKS THANKS!!!
May 14, 2010 at 12:27 PM
JUST READ THE ARTICLES TRYING TO GET MY MONEY BACK? I AM OUT 500 DOLLARS.
NO ANSWER FROM RED Z. THEY ARE OUT TO LUNCH.
June 4, 2010 at 8:41 AM
I almost feel for it, gave them my c-card after a pressure sales call, then when I got off the phone with the red z rep had second thoughts, like "how come I never heard of this search" ect. Then I found all theses negative feed back. At the time of the phone call it sounded like a unique concept, but DON'T fall for it! Now all I can do is hope they do the right thing and not charge my card for 500 bucks!!
June 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM
I just got a sales pitch call too and when I asked questions as to 'how many monthly searches do you see on this key words' I got global search numbers (which I also saw on google adwords tool) and not the actual RedZ search numbers. They could not answer my question on 'how much is the click through rate on those searches' and tried to 'weasel' away from my questions by falling into their sales pitch speech. My question about click fraud ratio and how they handle that was ignored. I told the caller I needed to discuss this with my partner and took down their phone number and name to call them back. You think I will call a search engine I had never heard before and spend $300 to $500 with them? NOPE, I wasn't born yesterday ;)
June 4, 2010 at 4:47 PM
Aaron strikes again. I got the cold call. Thanks, guys for the heads up. I found this post while talking with him on the phone. When I told Aaron about all the bad things said about RedZ he said that it is just SEO folks who hate RedZ! I plan to keep my $500 dollars and my high organic listing on Google. www.eaglevideo.com
June 8, 2010 at 1:22 PM
Fortunately my boss looked deeper as well. I talked with Paul last week and it sounded good, but wondered why none of my tech. geek friends had heard of RedZ. Now it is very clear why.
The strange part is that when the first girl went to transfer me she did not even tell me she was transferring me. She just disappeared so I hung up. Did not take 30 seconds before she called again and then transferred me. It was strange to say the least.
June 17, 2010 at 2:43 PM
RedZ called our toll free phone number for our website reserved for sales and attempted to sell us advertising. The initial caller, a female - told me to "hang on" then abruptly transferred me to a salesman that was seemingly under the impression that I called them! He said that he could sell us advertising on his website which I have never heard of up until this point. When I told him I was NOT interested he quickly wrapped up the call before I could say another word. This type of cold calling should be, as I thought it was - A THING OF THE PAST!
June 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM
Hi Folks,
Thanks for all the information. I too provided my credit card info to this company but managed to find this site and emailed them to stop the payment. However, having talked to the company (referencing this blog) about all the issues with the supposed bot traffic - I too got the explanation of iframes and that they no longer do that.
So... we are willing to give them a try. $0.10 and $0.15 per click is really good... and if we get the same conversion rate as we get on adwords.. we are not going to complain. Anyway, we will report back what we find in 10 days. Our listings go up tomorrow.
Cheers,
D
D
June 25, 2010 at 12:26 PM
"Hi Folks,
Thanks for all the information. I too provided my credit card info to this company but managed to find this site and emailed them to stop the payment. However, having talked to the company (referencing this blog) about all the issues with the supposed bot traffic - I too got the explanation of iframes and that they no longer do that.
So... we are willing to give them a try. $0.10 and $0.15 per click is really good... and if we get the same conversion rate as we get on adwords.. we are not going to complain. Anyway, we will report back what we find in 10 days. Our listings go up tomorrow.
Cheers,
D
D"
Hello Doormat Store,
Thank you for your comment, but the reality is that there traffic has been tested and re-tested by hundreds of people and it is bot traffic.
My feeling is that no money, not $0.10 or $0.15 per click is reasonable if it does not perform. Just because it is cheap does not mean it will work for you. I do expect (and hope) you come back after your test and provide feedback and follow-ups because at the end of the day I would like for RedZ to succeed as a company (as you can probably tell by my blog, I LOVE SEARCH ENGINES), just not at the expense of their customers and not with fake traffic.
Thanks again...:-)
June 25, 2010 at 12:35 PM
I have just recently done my homework on RedZ, and I am now confident that I have completely wasted $600 advertising with them. All traffic they generated to my site has an either 99% or 100% bounce rate, <5 seconds of stay time, and no conversions what so ever. I did not want to believe that I had been scammed, but I am now convinced. I talked to Paul, my sales rep and he told me that Google Analytics did not report them accurately, I have since added a second tracking program to my site, and it confirms the horrible statistics coming from RedZ. I am going to try a chargeback on my credit card, but I just hope that other ppc advertisers see this site before spending any $ on RedZ's fraudulent click campaigns!
June 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM
"I have just recently done my homework on RedZ, and I am now confident that I have completely wasted $600 advertising with them. All traffic they generated to my site has an either 99% or 100% bounce rate, <5 seconds of stay time, and no conversions what so ever. I did not want to believe that I had been scammed, but I am now convinced. I talked to Paul, my sales rep and he told me that Google Analytics did not report them accurately, I have since added a second tracking program to my site, and it confirms the horrible statistics coming from RedZ. I am going to try a chargeback on my credit card, but I just hope that other ppc advertisers see this site before spending any $ on RedZ's fraudulent click campaigns!"
I am SO sorry to hear you lost money too! I am hoping that this post can reach more people in time before this happens to others, but sometimes people just want to believe that they can get something for next to nothing and this is definitely not one of those cases, as we have all found.
I wish you luck with your charge back and thanks for the comment on the post to help others before it happens to them.
June 30, 2010 at 4:25 PM
Yep, "Leonard" called me and total scam. It's really too bad, because I really like the visualization idea. I told Leonard I wasn't interested and he got the hint. Really glad I found this article!
July 1, 2010 at 12:58 AM
Just paid them $300 Im calling to get my money back....Got a cold call from Aaron
July 1, 2010 at 12:59 AM
just paid for 300 ...will call my cc company to cancell....Got pressured by Aaron like some of the others posting....
July 18, 2010 at 8:33 PM
I joined a company who was a Redz subscriber, we quit and the bot traffic continues. Anybody know how to get rid of it? Thanks!
July 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM
They still call once in awhile but we shake them usually pretty quick.
July 19, 2010 at 4:18 PM
I got a call from "Leonard" today and boy I am glad I read this blog. He is calling tomorrow and will be told "no". Thanks for all of your comments. This is why the internet is great.
July 22, 2010 at 2:29 PM
Redz tried blaming it on a tracking problem - but it took only a day to prove
I signed up ohnuts.com with redz, They said i would pay .10 per click. they gave me a "deal" 5 keywords for the deposit of $500 (regular they only give one keyword). by now i got 826 hits with not a single conversion and i have 83% bounce rate
I spoke to the sales man yesterday and we made a test he placed an order on our site and i checked on google Analytics today and guess what google isn't dumb the first conversion ever from redzz showed up
now i was with him on the phone he had nothing to say for him self he said we will keep an eye on this. i said ill keep an eye on the CC transaction
and make sure to report these scamers
July 28, 2010 at 1:34 PM
Fortunately. for a change I checked deeper before committing, so thank you everyone for writing your experiences with this fraudulent company before I got suckered into $300. YOu know the old expression" If it sounds too good to be true, it probably and usually is!" Obviously, the case here.
August 10, 2010 at 5:07 PM
Just received a call from a RedZ rep. Sounded good until I did my research. When I searched for our top 5 key words the info that came back was irrelevant. I asked for a two week trial period and was told they could not do that. The top three search engines all offer free testing as they have nothing to hid
September 7, 2010 at 8:12 AM
thanks for such a important info. that will really helpful for everyone.
search engine optimization
September 10, 2010 at 8:47 AM
Redz has used the same fake traffic provider for years. It's listed on Alexa under Redz.com. A guy name John runs it and is a friend of Ryan Krupnick's one of the founders of Redzee. The servers used generate the fake traffic send a http request to thousands of http proxy servers across the web (no live person) they mask the traffic through other domains they own. This also is how the get a high rating at Alexa. Read how to fake out Alexa. Tell me more about this IFRAME. How it works? and when did they stop?
September 16, 2010 at 4:01 PM
Got a cold call today from Leondard. He then called back an hour later to follow up. Typical hard sell... rambling on and on and couldn't answer the tough questions. After telling me that I shouldn't fall for name brands (google, etc.) he then told me about how he buys name brand clothing because he works out a lot and looks good. HAHAHA!! This guy needs to be selling cars somewhere. Don't fall for it... glad I didn't (although I do look forward to his call back)!
September 17, 2010 at 11:17 AM
How do I go about getting these annoying people to stop calling me? I told them "no" over a year ago after consulting with our marketing company and doing my own research and reading nothing but negative things about them. They call every month and I tell them to add me to their DNC list but they continue to do it. they're also calling a toll free number reserved for customers. Seriously tired of it.
October 4, 2010 at 4:33 PM
weird sales pitch from redz. they told me to type in a phrase and when I did a bunch of non-related websites popped up...but no matter because "we could be locked in for 10 cents a click "forever" and always be one of the top three listed." the weirdest part were the long delays of silence during the phone conversation....like the line had gone dead.
October 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM
Just FYI everyone. They have become more advanced with their click fraud. We signed up for a small package using one of our best converting search terms, usually about 2-3% conversion from yahoo and google when someone searches and clicks our site.
After seeing somewhere around 1000 visits and no conversions I began to wonder so I looked at my analytics and decent numbers but a little fishy compared to google/yahoo for the same keyword:
Bounce rate 40% (about 20% more)
New Visits 99% (about 30% more)
Pages / Visit 5 (usually 9)
Conversions 0
After conversing extensively about the conversions they assured me it was a tracking issue, so I added some special tracking codes and still nada. We've received thousands of visits on our niche keyword without a single transaction.
Do not fall for their pushy tactics. They will say they have thousands of customers which is simply not true. They will say the tracking does work because they are in direct competition with google and google analytics is blocking them. The more you say no the better the deal gets, so watch out!
November 9, 2010 at 2:08 PM
When I left the Company 3 years ago after I figured out their scam and decided I couldnt sell it anymore even though I was makin good money. I figured they couldnt continue this for much longer. I am amazed they are still in business. They rip people off the right way 200-500 bucks. That way it is not worth it for anyone to persue legal action. There is a sucka born every minute. How many ripoffs does it take to stop this madness
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